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cabsandy
02-23-2011, 07:39 PM
Hi there,
First post so be gentle-not sure why I've never seen or heard of this software as I've been dablling with the likes of Serviio, PS3MS, TVersity for years :-) LIke the look of it but the one thing that really got me excited was the aspect ratio part.
I have 2 Sammys and a Sony. With my current software (PS3MS) , I find it really frustrating that the Sony will "fill the screen" with whatever film I try to watch, regardless of the format/size it was recorded it. The Sammys, however, end up with a box picture, with black bars at the side, something like a distorted 4:3 ratio. Its really frustrating-I know there is some hacked firmware to fix this but to be honest, I dont mind bricking a $20 router but I do mind a $800 TV!
So I've been playing with Mezzmo, and in particular the aspect ratio, but I still cant fill the screen. I thought that this was the point of this feature-or have I got it wrong?
Anybody have a similar TV or experience of this? If I can get it working, then I'll gladly buy the software :-)

cheers

cabs

Paul
02-24-2011, 07:48 AM
Hi,

Can you please tell me which device profile you're using and also post FFmpeg information on one of the movies with the wrong aspect ratio, so that I could see what's happening?

cabsandy
02-24-2011, 09:14 AM
Hi,

Can you please tell me which device profile you're using and also post FFmpeg information on one of the movies with the wrong aspect ratio, so that I could see what's happening?

Thanks for the reply-the device profile is Samsung BDP. I did use another Samsung profile but it gave the same results(Samsung B). See below for full details

General
Complete name : D:\videos\action\Dark Knight\VTS_01_1_all.vob
Format : MPEG-PS
File size : 6.74 GiB
Overall bit rate : 3 bps
Writing library : |HCenc 0.22.0.0 - (c) 2004/2007|

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 11s 360ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Nominal bit rate : 8 000 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.772
Writing library : |HCenc 0.22.0.0 - (c) 2004/2007|

Audio #1
ID : 129 (0x81)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 940 ?iB

Audio #2
ID : 128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Duration : 6s 48ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 331 KiB (0%)

Menu

cheers

cabs

Paul
02-24-2011, 09:26 AM
Looks like that file should be passed through natively without transcoding. Do you have a zoom setting on the TV (perhaps in the Tools menu) - what is that set to? Also, please post FFmpeg information on the file (in Mezzmo right-click on the file and use the "Get FFmpeg Information" command), as that's the only way for me to see the file the way Mezzmo sees it.

cabsandy
02-24-2011, 08:44 PM
Looks like that file should be passed through natively without transcoding. Do you have a zoom setting on the TV (perhaps in the Tools menu) - what is that set to? Also, please post FFmpeg information on the file (in Mezzmo right-click on the file and use the "Get FFmpeg Information" command), as that's the only way for me to see the file the way Mezzmo sees it.

Sorry about the confusion-here you go. On the Zoom front, the Samsungs are a bit of a pain in that they have only 2 modes-Fit and Original. When I use Fit, it wont Zoom or stretch-it expands it but only to a bigger square-unlike the Sony which will fill the screen.I dont doubt the Sony is better than the Samsung at this, hence why Mezzmo seems very attractive to me, to get over the Samsung limitation :-)

FFmpeg version git-c3897d7, Copyright (c) 2000-2011 the FFmpeg developers
built on Jan 20 2011 13:56:32 with gcc 4.4.2
configuration: --enable-memalign-hack --arch=x86 --target-os=mingw32 --cross-prefix=i686-mingw32- --enable-static --disable-shared --enable-zlib --disable-ffprobe --disable-ffplay --prefix=/media/windows/ffmpeg --extra-cflags=-U__STRICT_ANSI__ --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libx264 --enable-gpl --extra-libs='-lx264 -lpthread' --enable-runtime-cpudetect
libavutil 50.36. 0 / 50.36. 0
libavcore 0.16. 1 / 0.16. 1
libavcodec 52.108. 0 / 52.108. 0
libavformat 52.94. 0 / 52.94. 0
libavdevice 52. 2. 3 / 52. 2. 3
libavfilter 1.74. 0 / 1.74. 0
libswscale 0.12. 0 / 0.12. 0
[mpeg @ 003fdce0] max_analyze_duration reached
Input #0, mpeg, from 'D:\videos\action\Dark Knight\VTS_01_1_all.vob':
Duration: 00:00:10.88, start: 0.280000, bitrate: -2147483 kb/s
Stream #0.0[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x576 [PAR 64:45 DAR 16:9], 8000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 90k tbn, 50 tbc
Stream #0.1[0x81]: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 448 kb/s
Stream #0.2[0x80]: Audio: ac3, 0 channels
At least one output file must be specified


---> DB Level Info: 8

Does this look ok

cheers

cabs

Paul
02-25-2011, 07:41 AM
Yes, that file should go through natively. If can, please send it to support (at) conceiva (dot) com and we'll try it here on our Samsung TV and BDP to see what it looks like.

cabsandy
03-03-2011, 02:17 AM
Yes, that file should go through natively. If can, please send it to support (at) conceiva (dot) com and we'll try it here on our Samsung TV and BDP to see what it looks like.

Sorry for the lateness in replying-the file is a .vob file, and 4GB in size, so sending it is probably not an option! ;-)
My main question is this-when a device is selected and you look at the Performance tab, can this/is this where I can "force" the aspect ratio of the file (currently 720 by 576) to "upscale" on the Samsung B that is connected? This is basically the reason I would buy/favour Mezzmo over free apps like PS3MS

cheers

cabs

cabsandy
03-03-2011, 08:45 AM
Sorry for the lateness in replying-the file is a .vob file, and 4GB in size, so sending it is probably not an option! ;-)
My main question is this-when a device is selected and you look at the Performance tab, can this/is this where I can "force" the aspect ratio of the file (currently 720 by 576) to "upscale" on the Samsung B that is connected? This is basically the reason I would buy/favour Mezzmo over free apps like PS3MS

cheers

cabs

I think I now know the answers
1) Take out all "usual" file types for the profile (Samsung B) and force Mezzmo to transcode everything?
2) Wait for the new pre-transcode feature?