unable to rewind or FF on samsung bd-c6500 blu ray player.. streaming AVI from PC [Archive] - Conceiva Software Forums

Scuzzo

11-08-2011, 02:35 AM

after the most recent update my sam bluray player will not FF or RE.. or skip using the left right buttons.. it seems to have worked if previous versions but no it comes up with a error saying that function is not avial.. can i just go back to a previous version of Mezzmo.. or is there a fix for this?

Paul

11-08-2011, 09:54 AM

Please check that the device profile is still the same - are you using "Samsung BDP" or "Samsung BDP 3D"? Try the other one, to check whether that works or doesn't.

Also, the files could be transcoded and the device may disable skipping during that. Can you please right-click on the file in Mezzmo and post the output of the "Get FFmpeg Information" command?

Scuzzo

11-08-2011, 10:45 AM

Please check that the device profile is still the same - are you using "Samsung BDP" or "Samsung BDP 3D"? Try the other one, to check whether that works or doesn't.

Also, the files could be transcoded and the device may disable skipping during that. Can you please right-click on the file in Mezzmo and post the output of the "Get FFmpeg Information" command?

ok Dennis, i switched the profile.. Samsung BDP 3d -- did not rewind or fast forward or skip ff
Sansung BDP -- did not rewind or fast forward of skip ff

odd.. because in the previous versions i believe i had these options avail...

here is the file information... i did edit the title

ffmpeg version N-33781-g35674a2, Copyright (c) 2000-2011 the FFmpeg developers
built on Oct 19 2011 10:31:16 with gcc 4.6.1
configuration: --enable-memalign-hack --arch=x86 --target-os=mingw32 --cross-prefix=i686-w64-mingw32- --enable-static --disable-shared --enable-zlib --disable-postproc --prefix=/media/ffmpeg --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libx264 --enable-gpl --extra-libs='-lx264 -lpthread' --enable-runtime-cpudetect --extra-cflags=-I/home/dennis/cc/include --extra-ldflags=-L/home/dennis/cc/lib --pkg-config=pkg-config
libavutil 51. 22. 0 / 51. 22. 0
libavcodec 53. 21. 0 / 53. 21. 0
libavformat 53. 16. 1 / 53. 16. 1
libavdevice 53. 4. 0 / 53. 4. 0
libavfilter 2. 44. 0 / 2. 44. 0
libswscale 2. 1. 0 / 2. 1. 0
Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'C:\Users\edited\Videos\RS\edited.mkv':
Duration: 01:44:44.41, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 808 kb/s
Stream #0:0(eng): Video: h264 (High), yuv420p, 1280x536 [SAR 1:1 DAR 160:67], 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 1k tbn, 47.95 tbc
Metadata:
title : united300.blogspot.com | 300mbunited.com | rapidpremium.net
Stream #0:1: Audio: aac, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16 (default)
Metadata:
title edited
Stream #0:2: Subtitle: text (default)
Metadata:
title edited
At least one output file must be specified

---> DB Level Info: 40, 100
---> Frame rate: 23.98
---> Aspect ratio: 160:67

let me know if you need any more information... and i was wondering, is it possible to down grade to a previous version?

Paul

11-08-2011, 10:59 AM

This file will be transcoded using the "BDP" device profile, but it will be passed through using the "BDP 3D" one, so the latter should allow you to skip it, if the device supports it (sometimes the device may just disable skipping, based on certain encoding characteristics of a particular file).

Do you have Samsung's software installed? If you do, can you try this file using that and see if that lets you skip through it?

If the file plays properly (audio/video), I'd recommend using the "BDP 3D" device profile, so that it's not transcoded.

Downgrading is a possibility, but older versions are not supported and it's better to get this fixed using the current version, so that it's not an issue in the future as well.

Scuzzo

11-15-2011, 05:50 AM

This file will be transcoded using the "BDP" device profile, but it will be passed through using the "BDP 3D" one, so the latter should allow you to skip it, if the device supports it (sometimes the device may just disable skipping, based on certain encoding characteristics of a particular file).

Do you have Samsung's software installed? If you do, can you try this file using that and see if that lets you skip through it?

If the file plays properly (audio/video), I'd recommend using the "BDP 3D" device profile, so that it's not transcoded.

Downgrading is a possibility, but older versions are not supported and it's better to get this fixed using the current version, so that it's not an issue in the future as well.

ok i have tied all the above suggestions,, i can still not access any skip backward or skip forward controls.. which is odd because my early versions of mezzmo worked well with the skip forward and skip backward,, im not sure what else i can do to adress this but have no controls is not going to be a workable soultion,, i cant use mezzmo if i cant skip forward or backward,, i often watch a movie for an hr or so and then pick it up later,,

kinda stuck at this point..

Paul

11-15-2011, 09:49 AM

We'll need to see some logs to proceed then - please enable logging (see this thread: http://forum.conceiva.com/showthread.php/419-FAQ-How-to-turn-on-diagnostic-logging) then try playing that file for a few seconds. After that stop playback, zip up and send in the logs to support and we'll proceed via e-mail.

Scuzzo

11-16-2011, 05:00 AM

Hey,

thanks for the assistance..
i have just sent an email with logs attached..
please let me know if you require any more information..

chirs.

Paul

11-16-2011, 09:52 AM

Thanks for the logs - I'll get back to you via e-mail.

Scuzzo

11-20-2011, 04:13 AM

well here is a bit of a follow up i guess.. mkv will not FF RW or Skip F or Rew..
but AVI seems to allow for all samsung transport functions... i cannot roll back firm ware to when every thing worked great..
is it possible to force the MKV file to be transcoded to a AVI and thus allow for all transport functions... would i need to
edit my profile or something.?

Paul

11-21-2011, 10:32 AM

Yes, you'd need to edit the device profile manually to take out MKV support (thus MKVs will transcode to AVIs). However, transcoded AVIs may or may not let you FF either.

Did you try Samsung's PCSM with those MKV files?

Scuzzo

11-22-2011, 01:21 AM

Yes, you'd need to edit the device profile manually to take out MKV support (thus MKVs will transcode to AVIs). However, transcoded AVIs may or may not let you FF either.

Did you try Samsung's PCSM with those MKV files?

the samsung PCSM is a joke... it supports like mp3 and avi and a thats a bout it... but i found that with AVI files mezzmo allows my BD-c6500 all transport functions.. so i guess i need to edit the bd-c6500 profile..
where is it located.. do i just comment out the line... is there a faq on editing the profile? how much of a hit on resolution will i take on a Transcode form MKV to AVI with a 720 HD kinda file.

dang lots of silly questions... sorry bout that... ;)

Paul

11-22-2011, 10:00 AM

The device profiles are located here: http://forum.conceiva.com/showthread.php/467-FAQ-Where-are-device-profiles-located

There's no manual on editing the files, but feel free to ask any questions and I'll reply.

The change you want to make is actually not small, since we transcode to MKV for the Samsung BDPs by default, thus you'll need to add another transcoding container, such as MPEG-TS (AVCHD) and remove support for MKVs from the device profile (comment it out, for example). Or yes, you could transcode to AVI, but that may require a full transcode, since the h264 in AVI may not be supported by the player as well as the same stream in another container - this needs testing and tweaking.

Again, this may not give you the results that you wish in the end, since the device may block skipping on the resulting AVI in any case.

Does the BDP block skipping on all MKVs or only a few? If only a few, then most likely those particular MKVs are encoded in a way that prevents the BDP from browsing through them. In this case, frankly, I wouldn't change anything and possibly just re-code those files outside of Mezzmo. If the BDP blocks all MKVs, then that's different.

Also, if it's all MKVs that are prevented from skipping, would it be possible for you to send us one of those files through a site like www.megaupload.com (or provide original download links via PM)?

Scuzzo

11-23-2011, 01:53 AM

The device profiles are located here: http://forum.conceiva.com/showthread.php/467-FAQ-Where-are-device-profiles-located

There's no manual on editing the files, but feel free to ask any questions and I'll reply.

The change you want to make is actually not small, since we transcode to MKV for the Samsung BDPs by default, thus you'll need to add another transcoding container, such as MPEG-TS (AVCHD) and remove support for MKVs from the device profile (comment it out, for example). Or yes, you could transcode to AVI, but that may require a full transcode, since the h264 in AVI may not be supported by the player as well as the same stream in another container - this needs testing and tweaking.

Again, this may not give you the results that you wish in the end, since the device may block skipping on the resulting AVI in any case.

Does the BDP block skipping on all MKVs or only a few? If only a few, then most likely those particular MKVs are encoded in a way that prevents the BDP from browsing through them. In this case, frankly, I wouldn't change anything and possibly just re-code those files outside of Mezzmo. If the BDP blocks all MKVs, then that's different.

Also, if it's all MKVs that are prevented from skipping, would it be possible for you to send us one of those files through a site like www.megaupload.com (or provide original download links via PM)?

after doing a few test with MKV vs AVI..
i found that the Samsung BD-c6500

i found that with MKV there is no transport functions (FF, REW, FF>Skip, REW<Skip) there only function avail is Play Pause and Stop
i found that with AVI there are the transport functions ( FF>Skip and REW<skip) also play and paus..

since it reads AVI proper if i forced an MKV to AVI transcode it might allow me to use those skip functions..
it will balk on all MKV files i have tried... i may test an FLV to see if it dose the same thing..

perhaps you could just send me a modified Samsung BD-C6500 profile.. or i can go in and try to edit the file my self.. but i think i will have to change permissions(is a read only).. are brackets { } used to comment out
or are " or is it some other character?

not sure what else i can do..

Paul

11-23-2011, 09:50 AM

Yes, you'll need to remove read-only protection.

 are used to comment blocks out.

See the below sample with MKV taken out and transcoding into MPEG-TS instead:

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<samequality>0</samequality>
<gop>15</gop>
<bitrate>15000000</bitrate>
</format>
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<audio>
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<audio>
<format id="mp2" encode="0">
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<format id="pcm_s16be" encode="0">
</format>
</audio>
<audio>
<format id="ac3" encode="1" codec="ac3">
<channels>2</channels>
<channels>6</channels>
<bitrate>448000</bitrate>
<maxbitrate>640000</maxbitrate>
<minbitrate>64000</minbitrate>
<samplingrate>48000</samplingrate>
</format>
</audio>
<ffmpegadditional>-threads 4 -pix_fmt yuv420p -copyinkf -sc_threshold 1000000000 -coder ac -qmin 1 -cmp 2 -subcmp 2 -flags +loop -mbd bits -bsf h264_mp4toannexb -fflags +genpts+ignidx+igndts -deinterlace</ffmpegadditional>
</avcontainer>
<avcontainer id="mpeg" name="mpeg_ntsc" encode="1" mimetype="video/mpeg" baseline="1" format="dvd" supportschunked="0">
<video>
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</format>
</video>
<video>
<format id="mpeg2video" encode="1" codec="mpeg2video">
<dimensions width="1920" height="1080" />
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<samequality>0</samequality>
<gop>18</gop>
<bitrate>15000000</bitrate>
</format>
</video>
<audio>
<format id="mp3" encode="0">
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<format id="mp2" encode="0">
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<bitrate>448000</bitrate>
<maxbitrate>640000</maxbitrate>
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<samplingrate>48000</samplingrate>
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</audio>
<ffmpegadditional>-threads 4 -pix_fmt yuv420p -copyinkf -sc_threshold 1000000000 -coder ac -qmin 1 -cmp 2 -subcmp 2 -flags +loop -mbd bits -bsf h264_mp4toannexb -fflags +genpts+ignidx+igndts -deinterlace</ffmpegadditional>
</avcontainer>
<avcontainer id="mpegts" name="mpegts" encode="1" mimetype="video/mpeg" format="mpegts" supportschunked="1" level="51" preferredtranscoded="1">
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</video>
<video>
<format id="mpeg2video" encode="0">
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<format id="ac3" encode="1" codec="ac3" preferredtranscoded="1">
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<ffmpegadditional>-threads 0 -coder 1 -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -me_method hex -subq 6 -me_range 16 -g 250 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 -b_strategy 1 -qcomp 0.6 -qmin 0 -qmax 51 -qdiff 4 -bf 3 -refs 2 -directpred 1 -trellis 1 -flags2 +bpyramid+mixed_refs+wpred+dct8x8+fastpskip -wpredp 2</ffmpegadditional>
</avcontainer>
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<video>
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