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  1. #11
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    Is there a way I can reset the database without loosing the playlists I created? Maybe if all the data Mezzmo collected is removed, it will correctly do this.

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    Unfortunately, it seems to be a glitch in Mezzmo. I also use TMM to generate .nfo files for TV and Movie files.

    It works almost perfectly for movies (except when there is a <colon> in the movie title).

    However, Mezzmo just doesn't seem to want to cooperate about 20% of the time when it comes to TV Series and playlists. I have been fighting it for many, many months. These are the settings and setup that I find work best, but there is still a lot of hit and mess. On the playback end, I use playlists exclusively:
    Metadata Retrieval.jpg
    Metadata Retrieval Playlist.jpg
    Series Level.jpg
    Season Level.jpg

    My screenshots show a few extraneous files like <banner>, <logo> and <clearlogo> on the Series Level and the<xxxxxxxxxx.thumb> on the season level. I don't put them in there anymore but the folders that still have these files have never been affected by their presence.

    The quirkiest thing I have seen is that Mezzmo will initially populate the playlist and generate the correct poster for a season, until you actually play an episode. At that point, Mezzmo deletes the existing season poster and replaces it with a thumbnail from one of the episodes in that season. Once you set it back manually, it will stay. I believe this occurs 100% of the time but I haven't paid enough attention to say there aren't instances where it doesn't occur.

    If you reset your database, you will lose your playlists and any manually entered changes (speaking from experience). But that's a big reason I use locally stored art and .nfo files. If I do have to nuke it from orbit I have to recreate the playlists but the metadata and artwork populates automatically and rather quickly. Then all I have to do is poke around and do a little deep cleaning.

    My TMM settings:
    TMM Scraper Settings.jpg

    I am still using the TVDB and pay the annual fee. There are a few things that I do to get everything set right but I have finally settled on a system. It's been a big learning curve with TV Series. It takes a little extra work and vigilance but it works most of the time and I can usually predict when it won't so that I know what to go in and manually change to get what I want.
    Last edited by smitbret; 11-17-2020 at 03:42 AM. Reason: Added some TMM info

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    I think this issue is slightly different to what the OP is reporting in that the posters for their files are not set as the folder.jpg or poster.jpg where your issue is that the poster for a playlist/folder is being changed from a poster to a screenshot from the files within the playlist/folder.

    Resetting the database will remove any playlists you have created. Try going to Metadata Retrieval Settings and click the default button on the Video tab and then click OK. Then go to one of the files that is not getting the folder.jpg or poster.jpg and right-click and select to maintain the file and change the settings to update artwork and update all files and this should replace the screenshot with the folder.jpg or poster.jpg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    I think this issue is slightly different to what the OP is reporting in that the posters for their files are not set as the folder.jpg or poster.jpg where your issue is that the poster for a playlist/folder is being changed from a poster to a screenshot from the files within the playlist/folder.

    Resetting the database will remove any playlists you have created. Try going to Metadata Retrieval Settings and click the default button on the Video tab and then click OK. Then go to one of the files that is not getting the folder.jpg or poster.jpg and right-click and select to maintain the file and change the settings to update artwork and update all files and this should replace the screenshot with the folder.jpg or poster.jpg.
    Yeah, it's not the same. TV Series and Playlists have been such a fickle beast for me that I wanted to share exactly what has worked for me and wanted to warn him about the one quirk I hadn't solved, yet. TV Series and playlist management seems like it is far more complicated than movies and it has been frustrating at times while I tried to figure it out.

    From his screenshots, I would suggest putting all of the Season 1 specific files in their own Season 1 folder. I am wondering if Mezzmo isn't discerning whether the folder and poster files pertain to the series or the season. Also, I would turn off getting metadata from the file path and .xml sources. I have learned through a lot of trial and error that less is more.

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    You may need to uncheck the box in Metadata Retrieval Settings for Playlist/Folders 'Create Artwork based upon contents of folder/playlist' so that Mezzmo does not take the thumbnail of an episode and use it for the playlist poster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    You may need to uncheck the box in Metadata Retrieval Settings for Playlist/Folders 'Create Artwork based upon contents of folder/playlist' so that Mezzmo does not take the thumbnail of an episode and use it for the playlist poster.
    I did that, and after full maintenance, few tv shows indeed got the correct poster, but the rest did not. That's why I asked about the way to reset all data Mezzmo collected without removing the playlists I have set up.

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    It may be that the rest already have a thumbnail image set in the database so if Maintain library is run with the setting to only update files with missing information then they will not be updated. Try selecting the files then right-click and choose maintain files then select to update all files to see if this updates the artwork.

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    Yeah, that's what I did. Problem is I have no idea why for some shows Mezzmo uses correct poster, and not for the rest of the shows, because all the shows have same structure of files, same naming schema, everything is the same, but for some shows it uses correct poster.

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    It could be in the nfo or xml file included in the folder. For a show that does not use the correct poster please have a look in the nfo file to see what image it refers to for the poster. You can also try unchecking the box in Metadata retrieval settings to get metadata from nfo files then run Maintenance on the file to see what poster Mezzmo detects for the file.

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    I have tried all combinations, spent a week on maintenance nonstop to test, and nothing works. You need better settings in relation to the metadata and artwork used by Mezzmo to avoid confusing priorities order Mezzmo uses to determine what to use, because right now, we are just guessing how it works, and that is no good UX, and even you as an author are not sure what is going on and how Mezzmo decides on what to use.
    Last edited by GDragoN; 11-20-2020 at 10:38 PM.

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