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    Can anyone offer any suggestions for how I could create a hybrid profile consisting of the following?

    I would like to combine the file compatibility of the Sony Home Theater (NTSC No Divx) profile, the transcoded aspect ratio control of Sony BDP (NTSC No DivX) profile, and the seeking (fast forward/rewind) ability of the Generic Device 4 profile (GenericDevice3.prf).

    My problem is that I can get only one "feature" when using one of the profiles on my Sony BDP-S370. I'm having a heck of a time getting non-H.264 MP4's to play with the Sony BDP profiles, even when transcoded, when they play perfectly fine from a flash drive. I can't fast forward/rewind them when transcoding, but the aspect ratios are shown correctly. The Sony Home Theater profile seems to play all of the formats, but doesn't allow fast forwarding/rewinding and the aspect ratio is wrong. I have had some luck with Generic Device 4 allowing some transcoding with fast forward/rewind, but in general the MP4 compatibility is lacking and the aspect ratios are often wrong.

    Can anyone offer any suggestions? I'm still awaiting a response from Conceiva support, but even if I get something from them I'm still somewhat concerned that it won't necessarily fix my problems.

    Thanks in advance for any help!

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    Apparently Conceiva support doesn't have a better profile for me. They said that it's not possible to fast forward or rewind a file that's transcoding (which I find somewhat strange since I did it regularly when using Tversity). I guess I'll keep pursuing my own build of a custom profile, unless someone has already come up with something and would be willing to share.

    Dennis - you had stated in numerous threads that people looking for transcoding ff/rw capabilities on their Sony BDPs should contact customer support for a different profile. Is there possibly something you know that was unknown by the member I corresponded with (Adric)? Unfortunately this is really a make-or-break feature for me, so I hope there may be something out there or the ability to develop something.

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    We'd need to test this a bit further, but at the moment I wasn't successful at getting the BDP to FF/REW transcoded files. I also tried a couple of other servers with the same result, but I haven't tried TVersity yet. Can you please confirm whether the current version of it lets you do that?

    Also, I've tried our own Generic 4, but it doesn't let you FF/REW either, however you mentioned that it did?

    I'm happy to look into this further of course - the Bravia TVs didn't allow FF/REW at first either, but we made them work, so, if the firmware on the BDP allows for this at all, I'm sure we'll get it going.

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    I can't use Tversity on this player in particular since Tversity isn't DLNA certified. However, I have used Tversity with my PS3 and fast forwarded, rewound, and jumped to specific times in a transcoding file with no issues. It wasn't the fastest process due to having to buffer a bit of video at each displayed frame at a jump point, but it did work.

    My biggest issue is that Mezzmo doesn't appear to be offering DivX and MP4 files properly to my player. The majority of the files that are natively supported by the player (i.e. DivX and MP4) will play fine when playing from a flash drive or disc, but are not able to be played from Mezzmo (data corrupt or unplayable error), or have to be transcoded, depending on the profile I use (DivX vs No DivX). Due to this, I have essentially lost the ability to do seeking of any kind with virtually any file on my bluray player. To me it somewhat negates any convenience of a media server if a large portion of the functionality is lost, which is why I'm trying desperately to find a solution. I love the Mezzmo software and appreciate what went into it, but I'm still reluctant to buy a license if it's not working quite right for me.

    I had tried Generic 4 a few days back. I was able to play essentially any video file, including mkv's and MP4's, and it transcoded properly with the player not limiting the seeking capabilities (i.e. it didn't say "This function is not available with the current disc" or whatever it usually says). The issue with it was the aspect ratio control since some of my 2.2:1 movies were being stretched vertically to fit my 16:9 TV. However, I tried it again a couple days ago and it wouldn't play the files, so I'm not sure what's happening. It certainly seems like this DLNA stuff isn't the most straight forward and there's a lot of room for error, so I sure appreciate any time you put in to help.

    Thanks!

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    The PS3 is different to the BDP and Mezzmo allows you to FF/REW on it as well, so it's not a one-to-one comparison.

    DivX files are supported in Canadian and Asian (Australian as well) models of the players, but the USA model (and perhaps European?) claims that DivX is not supported. Thus we have several profiles. Playing files from a USB drive is different to serving them over DLNA (because of manufacturer's decision, not ours of course).

    If you turn off transcoding and use one of the BDP profiles, does it play any DivX/MP4 files?

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    I'm actually located in Canada and have the Canadian version of the bluray player, which states to be DivX and mp4 compatible, but I still have a lot of problems playing most DivX and all MP4 files without transcoding, whereas they play fine from USB. It generally gives me the corrupt/unplayable error when streaming through mezzmo. I'll play around with the various options in the next couple days to see if I can find something though.

    Out of curiousity, do you know why Generic Device 4 would have not been locked out for ff/rw when transcoding (while it worked for me)? I'm intrigued by the level of communication that is obviously occurring over the DLNA interface, with hopes there may be one configuration that may do what I'm looking for.

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    What I would recommend is to reset all settings back to default for the device (or just delete the device complete from Mezzmo), then connect to Mezzmo using it, select the "Sony BDP (NTSC)" device profile and see if that streams DivX. If it doesn't, please post FFmpeg information on that file here. Ideally, if you could send us one of your files we could test it here on our BDP as well and see what we can come up with.

    The Generic profiles transcode everything to MPEG2, but I'd be surprised if that alone would allow you to FF/REW on the BDP. Also, it doesn't occur anymore, right?

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    Will do, thanks again for looking into this. I'm amazed at the customer support you guys offer, it's one of the reasons I haven't given up yet :-)

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    Using "Sony BDP (NTSC)" and all the default settings other than the transcode option, it won't even see the mp4 files (says "There is no playable file." through Mezzmo, sees them just fine on USB). However, it does allow me to stream the DivX files with fast forward and rewind capabilities.

    This is the ffmpeg information from one of the mp4's, which were all created using Handbrake:

    FFmpeg version git-c3897d7, Copyright (c) 2000-2011 the FFmpeg developers
    built on Jan 20 2011 13:56:32 with gcc 4.4.2
    configuration: --enable-memalign-hack --arch=x86 --target-os=mingw32 --cross-prefix=i686-mingw32- --enable-static --disable-shared --enable-zlib --disable-ffprobe --disable-ffplay --prefix=/media/windows/ffmpeg --extra-cflags=-U__STRICT_ANSI__ --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libx264 --enable-gpl --extra-libs='-lx264 -lpthread' --enable-runtime-cpudetect
    libavutil 50.36. 0 / 50.36. 0
    libavcore 0.16. 1 / 0.16. 1
    libavcodec 52.108. 0 / 52.108. 0
    libavformat 52.94. 0 / 52.94. 0
    libavdevice 52. 2. 3 / 52. 2. 3
    libavfilter 1.74. 0 / 1.74. 0
    libswscale 0.12. 0 / 0.12. 0

    Seems stream 0 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 33751.00 (33751/1) -> 29.97 (30000/1001)
    Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'C:\Documents and Settings\Aaron\Desktop\Ripped DVD to MP4\Good Shepherd, The (WS).mp4':
    Metadata:
    major_brand : mp42
    minor_version : 0
    compatible_brands: mp42isom
    creation_time : 2011-02-03 19:23:54
    encoder : HandBrake 0.9.5 2011010300
    Duration: 02:47:30.52, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1674 kb/s
    Stream #0.0(und): Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 720x354 [PAR 32:27 DAR 1280:531], 1219 kb/s, 23.98 fps, 29.97 tbr, 90k tbn, 33751 tbc
    Metadata:
    creation_time : 2011-02-03 19:23:54
    Stream #0.1(eng): Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 6 channels, s16, 448 kb/s
    Metadata:
    creation_time : 2011-02-03 19:23:54
    Stream #0.2(eng): Subtitle: dvdsub, 4 kb/s

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    Ok, thanks for the updated info. That file is not part of the device profile - I'll need to check whether such files can be streamed to the BDP natively or not. If it's possible to play these files natively, then I can send you an updated device profile with this change.

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