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    Default Random/shuffle playlist?

    My A/V Receiver doesn't support playing music files in a random order.
    Is there a way for Mezzmo to create a playlist which changes the file order in a playlist periodically or even every time it's accessed?

    EDIT: I see it's a planned feature: http://forum.conceiva.com/showthread...huffle-feature
    Last edited by eMWu; 10-25-2011 at 09:10 PM.

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    Mezzmo v3.1 has been released and one of the new features is random shuffling on playlists and folders. See full changelog at http://www.conceiva.com/products/mezzmo/whatsnew.asp

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    I love the new shuffle feature, and have been eagerly awaiting it. However, it is designed to shuffle "by song" and I would also like an option to shuffle "by album." This is something you see on an iPod, and I use it extensively. I'm a classical music listener, and have my songs tagged with "Album" as the name of a work ("Beethoven Symphony No. 5") and the individual movements as "songs" on that album (Movement 1, Movement 2, etc.)

    Unless I can't see it, the new shuffle feature on a playlist only shuffles by SONG, not ALBUM. This means that a playlist of mine for "genre=Classical" will play songs, or movements of pieces, in random order. I get the second movement of Beethoven Symphony No. 7, then the fourth movement of a Shumann work, then a part out of Swan Lake, then.....

    You see the problem, I hope! Could you enhance this to allow "Random Shuffle" by SONG or ALBUM?

    Thanks,
    Bob

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    Hi Bob,
    thanks for the suggestion, we currently only support shuffle by song but we could add shuffle by album for a future version of Mezzmo.

    Mezzmo Android: Install it on your tablet, smartphone, Android TV or Amazon Fire to browse and stream files from your Mezzmo library to all your devices. Full details at http://www.conceiva.com/products/mez...mo_android.asp
    Mezzmo for Kodi Add-on: Install it into Kodi to stream files from your Mezzmo library directly in Kodi. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...odi_user_guide
    Mezzmo for Roku App: Install it onto your Roku to stream files from your Mezzmo library. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...oku_user_guide
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    Another idea is related to gapless music playback. If you want your music tracks to stay together when shuffling music, then you can create a gapless multi-file. Select all the tracks from the album in Mezzmo and right-click on of the files sand click "Create Gapless Multi-File". This will let you combine all tracks into one multi-file, and Mezzmo will stream it as one music track. This way, your shuffle will keep tracks together.

    Mezzmo Android: Install it on your tablet, smartphone, Android TV or Amazon Fire to browse and stream files from your Mezzmo library to all your devices. Full details at http://www.conceiva.com/products/mez...mo_android.asp
    Mezzmo for Kodi Add-on: Install it into Kodi to stream files from your Mezzmo library directly in Kodi. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...odi_user_guide
    Mezzmo for Roku App: Install it onto your Roku to stream files from your Mezzmo library. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...oku_user_guide
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    Hi, Paul,

    I'm glad to know you will consider adding the "shuffle by album" in a future version. Your suggestion for creating a multi-file is interesting, but probably impractical for me. I have over 9000 music files, most of them classical, and it would be rather a chore to convert each 'album' into a multi-file!

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    Understand, Bob. As mentioned, we'll consider your idea for a future version of Mezzmo.

    Mezzmo Android: Install it on your tablet, smartphone, Android TV or Amazon Fire to browse and stream files from your Mezzmo library to all your devices. Full details at http://www.conceiva.com/products/mez...mo_android.asp
    Mezzmo for Kodi Add-on: Install it into Kodi to stream files from your Mezzmo library directly in Kodi. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...odi_user_guide
    Mezzmo for Roku App: Install it onto your Roku to stream files from your Mezzmo library. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...oku_user_guide
    Wiki: User Guides & Reference Manual at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki
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    Hi, Paul,

    I'm just wondering if the "shuffle by album" feature was ever added. I looked at the changelogs and didn't see anything mentioned. I'd still love the capability (as would others, I hope), so please don't give up on it!

    Bob

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    Sorry, Bob. We have not yet added shuffle by album. As a workaround, you could create an active playlist using ALBUM as the keyword and then sort the playlist by Random Shuffle. This create a playlist with sub-playlists under it for each album and the tracks for each album would be randomly sorted.

    Mezzmo Android: Install it on your tablet, smartphone, Android TV or Amazon Fire to browse and stream files from your Mezzmo library to all your devices. Full details at http://www.conceiva.com/products/mez...mo_android.asp
    Mezzmo for Kodi Add-on: Install it into Kodi to stream files from your Mezzmo library directly in Kodi. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...odi_user_guide
    Mezzmo for Roku App: Install it onto your Roku to stream files from your Mezzmo library. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...oku_user_guide
    Wiki: User Guides & Reference Manual at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki
    Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/Mezzmo.DLNA.Server
    Twitter: https://twitter.com/conceiva_mezzmo
    Web: http://www.mezzmo.com

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    Hi, Paul,

    Thanks for the tip, but it doesn't accomplish what I want. I want the random shuffle to be at the ALBUM level, with the tracks in the album played in the correct order. For me, in classical music, an "album" is a work; as in Beethoven Symphony #7. If I had a classical shuffle by ALBUM, it might play Beethoven #6 (with tracks played #1 to #4 in order), then Rachmaninoff Symphony #2 (with tracks played in order).

    I guess I'll have to wait until you can do that. I was also looking at the Asset uPNP DLNA server from the dbPoweramp people (http://www.dbpoweramp.com/asset-upnp-dlna.htm) and it has that capability. It's a DLNA server that is exclusively focused on music, and they provide a lot of customization.

    Thanks,
    Bob

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