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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    Yes, you'd need to edit the device profile manually to take out MKV support (thus MKVs will transcode to AVIs). However, transcoded AVIs may or may not let you FF either.

    Did you try Samsung's PCSM with those MKV files?
    the samsung PCSM is a joke... it supports like mp3 and avi and a thats a bout it... but i found that with AVI files mezzmo allows my BD-c6500 all transport functions.. so i guess i need to edit the bd-c6500 profile..
    where is it located.. do i just comment out the line... is there a faq on editing the profile? how much of a hit on resolution will i take on a Transcode form MKV to AVI with a 720 HD kinda file.

    dang lots of silly questions... sorry bout that...

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    The device profiles are located here: http://forum.conceiva.com/showthread...ofiles-located

    There's no manual on editing the files, but feel free to ask any questions and I'll reply.

    The change you want to make is actually not small, since we transcode to MKV for the Samsung BDPs by default, thus you'll need to add another transcoding container, such as MPEG-TS (AVCHD) and remove support for MKVs from the device profile (comment it out, for example). Or yes, you could transcode to AVI, but that may require a full transcode, since the h264 in AVI may not be supported by the player as well as the same stream in another container - this needs testing and tweaking.

    Again, this may not give you the results that you wish in the end, since the device may block skipping on the resulting AVI in any case.

    Does the BDP block skipping on all MKVs or only a few? If only a few, then most likely those particular MKVs are encoded in a way that prevents the BDP from browsing through them. In this case, frankly, I wouldn't change anything and possibly just re-code those files outside of Mezzmo. If the BDP blocks all MKVs, then that's different.

    Also, if it's all MKVs that are prevented from skipping, would it be possible for you to send us one of those files through a site like www.megaupload.com (or provide original download links via PM)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    The device profiles are located here: http://forum.conceiva.com/showthread...ofiles-located

    There's no manual on editing the files, but feel free to ask any questions and I'll reply.

    The change you want to make is actually not small, since we transcode to MKV for the Samsung BDPs by default, thus you'll need to add another transcoding container, such as MPEG-TS (AVCHD) and remove support for MKVs from the device profile (comment it out, for example). Or yes, you could transcode to AVI, but that may require a full transcode, since the h264 in AVI may not be supported by the player as well as the same stream in another container - this needs testing and tweaking.

    Again, this may not give you the results that you wish in the end, since the device may block skipping on the resulting AVI in any case.

    Does the BDP block skipping on all MKVs or only a few? If only a few, then most likely those particular MKVs are encoded in a way that prevents the BDP from browsing through them. In this case, frankly, I wouldn't change anything and possibly just re-code those files outside of Mezzmo. If the BDP blocks all MKVs, then that's different.

    Also, if it's all MKVs that are prevented from skipping, would it be possible for you to send us one of those files through a site like www.megaupload.com (or provide original download links via PM)?
    after doing a few test with MKV vs AVI..
    i found that the Samsung BD-c6500

    i found that with MKV there is no transport functions (FF, REW, FF>Skip, REW<Skip) there only function avail is Play Pause and Stop
    i found that with AVI there are the transport functions ( FF>Skip and REW<skip) also play and paus..

    since it reads AVI proper if i forced an MKV to AVI transcode it might allow me to use those skip functions..
    it will balk on all MKV files i have tried... i may test an FLV to see if it dose the same thing..

    perhaps you could just send me a modified Samsung BD-C6500 profile.. or i can go in and try to edit the file my self.. but i think i will have to change permissions(is a read only).. are brackets { } used to comment out
    or are " or is it some other character?

    not sure what else i can do..

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    Yes, you'll need to remove read-only protection.

    <!-- and --> are used to comment blocks out.

    See the below sample with MKV taken out and transcoding into MPEG-TS instead:

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