Stream a blue ray with 3d content (format: mkv)

[SilentSea]

Hi there,

last saturday we bought our new Sony NX 715. After i tried some other dlna server software , i found this genius mezzmo tool. I think it's the best designed tool because of light structure.

So i would like to use mezzmo as server for my video archive. In my tests streaming was really nice, but there is still one problem i don't understand. How can i stream ripped blue rays with 3d content?

I've no stand alone blue ray player. But i've have one in my pc system, so i can rip the files to archive and then play the content (I've to read how to rip ). I tested some files from web, but in all cases i see the pictures side by side and not in 3d.

Is there someone who can help me? I would like to buy this nice mezzmo tool, if it is possible to present my 3d content one my new Sony Bravia NX 715.

Greetings.

Sorry for my english.

[Paul]

Hi,

Is there any setting on the TV that puts it in 3D mode? Perhaps a menu of some sort that you'll need to access that would switch the TV into that mode.

The other issue to consider is how you ripped the BluRay - did you rip out as a native format for the TV (e.g. AVCHD) or an MKV, for example? If the latter, then Mezzmo will have to transcode that (because the TV doesn't support MKVs natively) and this may cause loss of 3D (I'm just guessing here, as we don't have a 3D TV here to actually try this).

[SilentSea]

Hi thanks,

for the fast reply. Yes i switched the Tv in 3D Mode. But i don't found an setting for sidebyside rips. I must admit that my expericence with 3D ist really low. The tests i was running were with sidebyside rips of mkv format. So i think it will be transcoded.

Is there a possibility how i can try it out to confirm your guess? For example with a ripped file in AVCHD or an other method as sidebyside (leftright)?

[Paul]

Yes, I think if you can find a 3D AVCHD file then that would be a better test. It would also need to fit within Mezzmo's device profile, so that Mezzmo doesn't transcode it, so if you have such a file please post FFmpeg information on it and we'll see if it fits or not and if it doesn't we can modify the profile to force it to pass through to see if that'll play ok.

[SilentSea]

Thanks for advice. I will try it tomorrow. First i've to search such file or some tool to convert. I will reply the results.

P.S. Nice support response time

[Paul]

Thanks! Yes, please do let us know how it goes - and if it'll start transcoding, we'll need to modify the device profile to pass it through (or you can disable transcoding).

[SilentSea]

Hi, i've read a little bit about 3d and this sbs setting. In some threads across the web, there were comments that there is a option in tv setting to change format mode. I went through my tv settings. But this option is disabled. Maybe it is disabled for all dlna streams, or only because of wrong streaming.

I've tried so to convert my mkv to avchd (I can't find avchd content), same result, two pictures on screen an no possibility to active sbs mode.

FFmpeg information for mkv:

FFmpeg version SVN-r25446, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 the FFmpeg developers
built on Oct 12 2010 10:38:21 with gcc 4.4.2
configuration: --enable-memalign-hack --arch=x86 --target-os=mingw32 --cross-prefix=i686-mingw32- --enable-static --disable-shared --enable-zlib --disable-ffprobe --disable-ffplay --prefix=/media/windows-share/ffmpeg --extra-cflags=-U__STRICT_ANSI__ --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libx264 --enable-gpl --extra-libs='-lx264 -lpthread' --enable-runtime-cpudetect
libavutil 50.32. 3 / 50.32. 3
libavcore 0. 9. 1 / 0. 9. 1
libavcodec 52.92. 0 / 52.92. 0
libavformat 52.81. 0 / 52.81. 0
libavdevice 52. 2. 2 / 52. 2. 2
libavfilter 1.50. 1 / 1.50. 1
libswscale 0.12. 0 / 0.12. 0
[matroska,webm @ 013bcf40] max_analyze_duration reached
[matroska,webm @ 013bcf40] Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate
Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'I:\Filme\Avatar.Aufbruch.nach.Pandora.3D.2009.Ger man.DL.1080p.BluRay3D.x264-ANCIENT\ancient-avatar.3d.1080p.x264.mkv':
Metadata:
title : AVATAR - SBS-3D - 1080P - ANCIENT
Duration: 02:41:41.72, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1920 kb/s
Stream #0.0(ger): Video: h264, yuv420p, 1920x1080, PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9, 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 1k tbn, 47.95 tbc
Metadata:
title : AVATAR - SBS-3D - 1080P - ANCIENT
Stream #0.1(ger): Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 384 kb/s
Metadata:
title : GERMAN - AC3
Stream #0.2(eng): Audio: dca, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 1536 kb/s
Metadata:
title : ENGLISH - DTS
Stream #0.3(ger): Subtitle: [0][0][0][0] / 0x0000
Metadata:
title : GERMAN - FORCED
Stream #0.4(ger): Subtitle: [0][0][0][0] / 0x0000
Metadata:
title : GERMAN - NORMAL
At least one output file must be specified


---> DB Level Info: 41

for m2ts

Input #0, mpegts, from 'I:\Filme\AvatarTest\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts':
Duration: 02:41:41.69, start: 600.000000, bitrate: 10576 kb/s
Program 1
Stream #0.0[0x1011](ger): Video: h264, yuv420p, 1920x1080, 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 90k tbn, 47.95 tbc
Stream #0.1[0x1100](ger): Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 384 kb/s

[Paul]

The m2ts file looks like a native one that should be passed through the to TV. When you try to play it, do you know if it's being transcoded or just passes through? One way to tell is if "ffmpeg.exe" is in the Task Manager or not. Or you could also check the transcoding folder or the logs, but most probably it's being passed through.

Does the manual say anything about streaming 3D contents? It's possible that 3D is limited to disks only. Has anyone streamed anything in 3D from what you've read?

[SilentSea]

Today i had the possibility to test the 3d functionality on a friends playstation. It's a bit complicated. So if we connect the playstation to lan and stream with mezzmo to playstation (connected to tv via hmdi 1.4), i can sync the tv with the playstation and then i can select tv options. After that i can select 3d options and 3d format (sidebyside).

Befor i've testet 3d options by viewing an 3d video from youtube (tv has internet functions). No way to activate something like sidebyside.

I think sony went this way and block direct streaming from lan oder web, because they thought 3d content will allways be under copyright or they only want to push there bluray player. Therefore you have to take a hdmi cable and so one. I think its a really big mistake. Today we can take homevideos in 3d, so why block this way of streaming?

If sony send me a reply on this problem i will leave a message.

By the way. 3D on my Nx 715 is a nice to have, but i couldn't see a reaaly advantage of viewing 3d, it's a personal thing .

After all, mezzmo is a really nice tool. At the moment there is nothing to complain about it.

Thanks for help.

[Paul]

Thanks for sharing your experience!