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Thread: Samsung UN46C8000XF: Mezzmo vs. Samsung DLNA server

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    Ok I installed the latest Samsung BDP 3D profile and tried it with the BD-C7900 (just arrived yesterday) but I'm having trouble with the same files I had trouble with on the TV before I got the updated profile (Samsung C) for that from you.

    So on the BD-C7900 with the updated (BDP 3D) profile I get constant buffering on my AVCHD files (as well as on a .mov Transformers 2 trailer) and the VC-1 file either refuses to play (not supported format) or plays for up to a minute or so and then stops and says it's not supported.

    Haven't tried the updated Samsung C profile with the BD-C7900. Will try that after work today.

    Thanks,

    -g>.

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    Yes, see how the "C" profile goes and if it works better we'll adjust the "3D" profile accordingly.

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    Ok I did a comparison between the BDP and TV with the same profile (Samsung C):

    BDP:

    VC-1 movie: plays but buffers constantly and lots of audio dropouts
    AVCHD camcorder recordings: tried 2...both played fine
    .mov Transformers 2 trailer: quite a bit of buffering during 2nd half of 2 minute trailer

    TV:

    VC-1 movie: played for 5 mins with no buffering and no audio dropouts
    AVCHD camcorder recordings: (same as BDP)
    .mov Transformers 2 trailer: (same as BDP)

    NOTE: I checked the transcoding directory after testing each device and it appears neither device attempted to transcode to play these files back

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    Here's the info on the:

    .mov Transformers 2 trailer:

    FFmpeg version SVN-r25446, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 the FFmpeg developers
    built on Oct 12 2010 10:38:21 with gcc 4.4.2
    configuration: --enable-memalign-hack --arch=x86 --target-os=mingw32 --cross-prefix=i686-mingw32- --enable-static --disable-shared --enable-zlib --disable-ffprobe --disable-ffplay --prefix=/media/windows-share/ffmpeg --extra-cflags=-U__STRICT_ANSI__ --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libx264 --enable-gpl --extra-libs='-lx264 -lpthread' --enable-runtime-cpudetect
    libavutil 50.32. 3 / 50.32. 3
    libavcore 0. 9. 1 / 0. 9. 1
    libavcodec 52.92. 0 / 52.92. 0
    libavformat 52.81. 0 / 52.81. 0
    libavdevice 52. 2. 2 / 52. 2. 2
    libavfilter 1.50. 1 / 1.50. 1
    libswscale 0.12. 0 / 0.12. 0

    Seems stream 1 codec frame rate differs from container frame rate: 5994.00 (5994/1) -> 23.98 (2997/125)
    Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from '\\drobo-nas\video\test\trailers\80297347.mov':
    Metadata:
    major_brand : qt
    minor_version : 537199360
    compatible_brands: qt
    title : "Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen" Trailer #1
    title-eng : "Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen" Trailer #1
    artist : Yahoo! Movies
    artist-eng : Yahoo! Movies
    copyright : © 2009, Paramount Pictures.
    copyright-eng : © 2009, Paramount Pictures.
    Duration: 00:02:16.40, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 9585 kb/s
    Stream #0.0(eng): Audio: aac, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 184 kb/s
    Stream #0.1(eng): Video: h264, yuv420p, 1920x800, 9397 kb/s, 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 2997 tbn, 5994 tbc
    At least one output file must be specified


    ---> DB Level Info: 40

    VC-1 movie:

    FFmpeg version SVN-r25446, Copyright (c) 2000-2010 the FFmpeg developers
    built on Oct 12 2010 10:38:21 with gcc 4.4.2
    configuration: --enable-memalign-hack --arch=x86 --target-os=mingw32 --cross-prefix=i686-mingw32- --enable-static --disable-shared --enable-zlib --disable-ffprobe --disable-ffplay --prefix=/media/windows-share/ffmpeg --extra-cflags=-U__STRICT_ANSI__ --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libx264 --enable-gpl --extra-libs='-lx264 -lpthread' --enable-runtime-cpudetect
    libavutil 50.32. 3 / 50.32. 3
    libavcore 0. 9. 1 / 0. 9. 1
    libavcodec 52.92. 0 / 52.92. 0
    libavformat 52.81. 0 / 52.81. 0
    libavdevice 52. 2. 2 / 52. 2. 2
    libavfilter 1.50. 1 / 1.50. 1
    libswscale 0.12. 0 / 0.12. 0
    [NULL @ 02d5c710] start time is not set in av_estimate_timings_from_pts
    Input #0, mpegts, from '\\drobo-nas\video\test\The Dark Knight\The.Dark.Knight.2008.1080p.BD-Remux.TrueHD.VC-1 (1920x1080p, 16to9, 23.976).ts':
    Duration: 02:32:13.29, start: 600.000000, bitrate: 28587 kb/s
    Program 1
    Stream #0.0[0x1011]: Video: vc1, yuv420p, 1920x1080 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 90k tbn, 23.98 tbc
    Stream #0.1[0x1100](eng): Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 640 kb/s
    Stream #0.2[0x1101](eng): Audio: truehd, 48000 Hz, 6 channels, s32
    Stream #0.3[0x1101]: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 640 kb/s
    Stream #0.4[0x1102](eng): Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 192 kb/s
    Stream #0.5[0x1200](eng): Subtitle: pgssub
    At least one output file must be specified


    ---> DB Level Info: -99

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    Thanks for the info. Have you tried playing those files using PCSM? If you have, what are the results?

    I can't find any mpegts/vc1 files here - do you have one that you could send us for testing here?

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    PCSM + BDP:

    VC-1: lots of buffering
    .mov: can't even select it (it doesn't show up in the folder view)

    PCSM + TV:

    VC-1: plays fine
    .mov: same as above

    The VC-1 file I'm testing with is the only one I have and it is a full blu-ray rip.

    Thanks,

    -g>.

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    Thanks for the results. So, to sum it up - the BDP-3D does not support VC1 very well, so we need to remove that from the device profile for the BDP, right? Or it just doesn't support high-bitrate ones, which means we need to find the highest bitrate it will play (for example 20Mbits) and transcode everything above that.

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    Yea I guess that is what we are seeing here but what I don't understand is that a Blu-ray player has trouble playing a high bit rate VC-1 rip while the TV (which obviously doesn't even play Blu-ray discs) plays it just fine. You would think the BDP would be able to handle these files (this particular player plays high bit rate discs just fine).

    Is there a way to trouble shoot this furher? Do you hav any short high bit rate VC-1 BD rips that I could try on both devices?

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    I agree with your logic, but over time I see things that are just like - illogical. Of course the engine handling actual BD playback and the media player for DLNA files are two different things, so that could be the reason for this discrepancy.

    We don't have any such rips here, but we could make some for testing. Are you using some free software for ripping that we could also use here for testing?

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    No I didn't do the ripping on this one. My BD-ROM died a while back and I've been waiting for prices to drop on BD recorders/media before getting once of those to replace it. Eventually I'll want to start burning my AVCHD recorings and will get one.

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