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    Default Play Fi Support

    Has any one been able to browse a Mezzmo library from PlayFi and play to a PlayFi enabled device?

    I upgraded my AVR to an Anthem MRX 720 that has DTS Play-Fi support. Play Fi appears to be an open standard media player. Based on what I could find with a quick search it appears to be a DLNA implemetation.
    (https://play-fi.com/faq/entry/supported-media-servers).

    When controlling the AVR through the PlayFi app on my phone I can select from a myriad of music sources including 'media server' which presents a list of locally detected DLNA servers. Mezzmo shows up as does plex, foobar2000, and even a windows 10 dlna server. However, when selecting Mezzmo, PlayFi reports 'no audio content found'. The other DLNA servers are browseable and can stream music to the PlayFi DMR.

    Mezzmo sees the AVR/PlayFi endpoint in media devices as a Generic Device (NTSC). When using Mezzmo to play to the PlayFi DMP the streaming never starts. Additionally, neither when using the foobar200 dlna browser/controller or bubbleupnp on my phone to stream from Mezzmo does the streaming work to the AVR. I tried a few other device profiles but I didn't do an exhaustive search of the listed profiles to see which have playfi support.

    I can browse and stream with mezzmo to everything else on my network. The device in mezzmo is set to allow.



    Thank you

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    Try setting the device profile to Microsoft Windows Media Player.

    Mezzmo Android: Install it on your tablet, smartphone, Android TV or Amazon Fire to browse and stream files from your Mezzmo library to all your devices. Full details at http://www.conceiva.com/products/mez...mo_android.asp
    Mezzmo for Kodi Add-on: Install it into Kodi to stream files from your Mezzmo library directly in Kodi. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...odi_user_guide
    Mezzmo for Roku App: Install it onto your Roku to stream files from your Mezzmo library. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...oku_user_guide
    Wiki: User Guides & Reference Manual at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki
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    Thanks for the reply.

    When using mezzmo as the DMC:

    No dice. The AVR does switch inputs when I try to play to it, but the progress bar/time indicator in the mezzmo gui never progresses and no sound is heard.

    Most of my collection is ripped to .flac but I tried an mp3 and it worked with WMP as the device type. I switched to kodi since I know it supports .flac and neither file type would stream. (mp4a didnt work either but i didnt test this much)

    When using the playfi android app as the dmc, I can stream .flac and .mp3 from mezzmo.


    When using another DMC (bubbleupnp)

    I can also have mezzmo stream .mp3 to playfi, but not .flac.


    It seems like there are two issues

    1. the playfi android app cannot browse mezzmo
    2. Non-playfi DMCs cannot stream .flac to playfi. I tested mezzmo and bubbleupnp.

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    How do you use the playfi android app as a dmc if it cannot browse mezzmo? Does it use the previously set media URL and play it?
    Are you changing the device profile for the Android device when you use different apps or are you using the same profile for all apps? The Mezzmo android app will use the profile set for the playfi device whereas the other apps will get media URLs for the android device's profile so you could try changing the playfi device's profile to the android device's profile in 'Media Devices' in Mezzmo then try using the Mezzmo Android app.

    Mezzmo Android: Install it on your tablet, smartphone, Android TV or Amazon Fire to browse and stream files from your Mezzmo library to all your devices. Full details at http://www.conceiva.com/products/mez...mo_android.asp
    Mezzmo for Kodi Add-on: Install it into Kodi to stream files from your Mezzmo library directly in Kodi. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...odi_user_guide
    Mezzmo for Roku App: Install it onto your Roku to stream files from your Mezzmo library. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...oku_user_guide
    Wiki: User Guides & Reference Manual at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    How do you use the playfi android app as a dmc if it cannot browse mezzmo? Does it use the previously set media URL and play it?
    By browsing other DLNA servers such as plex or foobar2000

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Are you changing the device profile for the Android device when you use different apps or are you using the same profile for all apps? The Mezzmo android app will use the profile set for the playfi device whereas the other apps will get media URLs for the android device's profile so you could try changing the playfi device's profile to the android device's profile in 'Media Devices' in Mezzmo then try using the Mezzmo Android app.
    The android device running the playfi app is just acting as a DMC, I was not changing its profile in Mezzmo. The only profile I was tweaking in Mezzmo was the one for the playfi endpoint that is part of the AVR. I have not used the Mezzmo android app in this testing.

    I may have caused some confusion with the playfi components. There is a playfi mobile app that acts as a DMC to control the playfi DMR feature that is part of the AVR. I hope that helps, sorry for any confusion.

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    Try changing the device profile for the Android device in 'Media Devices' to 'BubbleUpnP BubbleUPnP' then try browsing the server using the playfi app to see if it can browse the Mezzmo server. When using the Conceiva Mezzmo (Android) profile a lot of extra metadata is sent which may be causing problems for the playfi app. This profile may also help to play flac files. You can also try setting the device profile for the playfi device to Onkyo TX/HT as this profile contains mp3 and flac support.

    Mezzmo Android: Install it on your tablet, smartphone, Android TV or Amazon Fire to browse and stream files from your Mezzmo library to all your devices. Full details at http://www.conceiva.com/products/mez...mo_android.asp
    Mezzmo for Kodi Add-on: Install it into Kodi to stream files from your Mezzmo library directly in Kodi. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...odi_user_guide
    Mezzmo for Roku App: Install it onto your Roku to stream files from your Mezzmo library. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...oku_user_guide
    Wiki: User Guides & Reference Manual at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki
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    It was already set to bubbleupnp for the android device. I'm assuming 'BubbleUpnP BubbleUPnP' was a typo? I only see 'BubbleUpnP' and the VLC, etc variations.

    No luck with the Onkyo TX/HT media device profile for the AVR.

    Thanks for the suggestions, I'm happy to keep trying things.

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    The name of the profile in the .prf file is 'BubbleUpnP BubbleUPnP' but in the list in Mezzmo it is shortened. Please try using the 'Yamaha RX' profile or the 'Yamaha RX (Mp3)' profile for both the android and playfi devices to see if the flac files play and if you can browse the server.

    Mezzmo Android: Install it on your tablet, smartphone, Android TV or Amazon Fire to browse and stream files from your Mezzmo library to all your devices. Full details at http://www.conceiva.com/products/mez...mo_android.asp
    Mezzmo for Kodi Add-on: Install it into Kodi to stream files from your Mezzmo library directly in Kodi. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...odi_user_guide
    Mezzmo for Roku App: Install it onto your Roku to stream files from your Mezzmo library. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...oku_user_guide
    Wiki: User Guides & Reference Manual at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki
    Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/Mezzmo.DLNA.Server
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    No luck with either of the yamaha profiles for both the android device running playfi/bubble and the playfi media device.

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    The yamaha profiles use audio/mpeg for mp3 files as the mimetype so possibly playfi requires audio/mp3 as the mimetype. Try changing to the Generic Device (NTSC) profile and turn transcoding on in Device Settings (it is off by default with this profile).

    Mezzmo Android: Install it on your tablet, smartphone, Android TV or Amazon Fire to browse and stream files from your Mezzmo library to all your devices. Full details at http://www.conceiva.com/products/mez...mo_android.asp
    Mezzmo for Kodi Add-on: Install it into Kodi to stream files from your Mezzmo library directly in Kodi. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...odi_user_guide
    Mezzmo for Roku App: Install it onto your Roku to stream files from your Mezzmo library. Full details at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki/doku.php?...oku_user_guide
    Wiki: User Guides & Reference Manual at http://www.mezzmo.com/wiki
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